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Translation of sell price

Hello Sizau! I have a question for you about your recent correction to the translation of "sell price". Should all instances of "售价" be replaced with "售出价格"? For example, in Template:Recipes, the heading for sell price remains "售价". Should it be changed? If so, I have admin tools that can help do the task more quickly. Thank you very much! margotbean（讨论） 2023年1月15日 (日) 20:08 (UTC)

  • In Chinese, both the price at which a player buys and the price at which a player sells can be called "售价", which may lead to misunderstanding in some scenarios.
  • The "出售价格(=售价)" is also ambiguous (the miracle of Chinese grammar), so I have unified it into "售出价格".
  • The "out" (出) in the "售出价格" makes it clear that the player is selling rather than buying.
For Template:Recipes, I think it does need to be changed. However, the treatment of the translation of this word on different pages is very complicated, so it is still not sure whether to do a global replacement or not. My suggestion is to unify (for player) the purchase price as "购买价格" and the sale price as "售出价格". Sizau（讨论） 2023年1月16日 (一) 03:00 (UTC)
Ok, I changed Template:Recipes and Template:Infobox mineral. All infobox templates should be the same now. I'll leave the text of pages alone (I won't do a global replace), but please let me know if I can help update a translation in the future. Thanks so much for your reply and for updating the wiki! margotbean（讨论） 2023年1月16日 (一) 19:15 (UTC)

Translations

Translations on the wiki need to match what's in the game, as I've already told you on my talk page. Please report any bad translations on the forums, and refrain from changing in-game translations on the wiki. Thank you, margotbean（讨论） 2023年2月8日 (三) 04:43 (UTC)

Hello Sizau, I hope you are well. I noticed that no one has reported any translation errors on the forums. If you would report them, they could be fixed. Please think about making a forum post! Thank you, margotbean（讨论） 2023年2月8日 (三) 16:49 (UTC)
hi I'm trying to summarize the translation errors, I'll try to finish sorting them out and then report them together, Sizau（讨论） 2023年2月8日 (三) 17:30 (UTC).

Templates

I know you're trying to help, but please stop editing templates. It actually makes more work for me, not less. I know you have good intentions, and I appreciate that very much. Thank you! But unless you are fixing bad translations, please refrain from editing any more templates. Thanks very much, margotbean（讨论） 2023年2月17日 (五) 07:27 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not intend to bother you. The reason why I delete the englishdoc tag (and add lang links for compensate) is that it always includes a "usage" part, which is helpful to those templates contains no documentations. However, the part is actually useless for templates include documentations. I wonder if you can add a parameter to control its output, Sizau（讨论） 2023年2月17日 (五) 16:29 (UTC)
It is on my "to do" list, but right now there are more pressing matters to attend to. I'll look into it as soon as possible. margotbean（讨论） 2023年2月17日 (五) 18:40 (UTC)


Template Translation

Hello Sizau, I hope you are doing well!

The templates Template:Executable name, Template:O, and Template:T are still untranslated. You added documentation, which is great, but the actual text of the template is untranslated.

In Template:Executable name, the parts that need translated are "May appear as '{{{1}}}' without the" and "depending on your settings." If you hover the mouse over the extension ".exe", this is the text that is displayed.

In Template:O, the only text that needs to be translated is "optional field". In Template:T, it's "required field".

If you translate these phrases, then the "untranslated" template can be removed. ok? Thanks very much, margotbean（讨论） 2023年3月4日 (六) 15:20 (UTC)

鱼的长度单位

事实上我注意到英文和中文wiki界面内鱼的长度单位都是英寸，然而数据上看，中文界面的长度都按照厘米换算过了。游戏内中文也是显示厘米作为基准，所以是否应该更改一下中文wiki鱼的简介上的长度单位？ ParadoxLeech（讨论） 2023年3月26日 (日) 23:12 (UTC)

其实这个问题应该问 Margotbean（不过他看不懂中文）。我刚看下了下对应的鱼类的模板，模板会自动把 size 英寸换算成厘米，应该是以前翻译的时候没注意到单位，所以我直接把英寸改成厘米啦。
另外，可以注意一下链接的井号（#），有些是用 ID 定位的，修改的话要看一下页面能不能自动跳转，比如说任务#剧情任务的第一个任务是介绍，源代码里是|id="Introductions"|介绍，那么跳转的话就要写成任务#Introductions，Sizau（讨论） 2023年3月27日 (一) 04:08 (UTC)

赌场

Do you know which version of the game on WeGame added gambling back to the Casino? I'd like to add it to the version history section of the 赌场 page...

Thanks! margotbean（讨论） 2023年3月31日 (五) 18:12 (UTC)

Gambling-related content is banned in mainland China, so the game's related content was cut before. Also, SDV has an age rating of 8+ in mainland China. The content is more like secretly added back (after the game is approved, unless someone reports it, the government departments will not review)
I did try to find relevant information before I updated the page, but there was nothing. What is known is that in November 2017 the content is still missing. in February 2019 there are some posts indicating that the content has been restored.
WeGame (a League of Legends launcher) is a beautifully packaged pile of shit. There is no notification when the content of Casino is deleted (as well as when restored). The game's update records are only copies of the original content, and only machine translated. Now the platform is still stuck in version 1.5.4, no update. And it doesn't have the function to download the history version, making it impossible to verify.
Based on the facts (the relevant post and the update record), I assume that the content was restored in the "multiplayer" version (Updated August 01, 2018 on WeGame), Sizau（讨论） 2023年4月1日 (六) 16:45 (UTC)
Wow! Your response made me laugh and feel sad at the same time.
I think it would be best not to mention it on the page, so as not to draw attention to it. If the game is updated, and the content is removed again, we should add that to the page.
I appreciate the research you did into the history of it! Thank you very much! margotbean（讨论） 2023年4月2日 (日) 18:29 (UTC)

Fish size question

On fish pages like 河豚, should the wiki say "3~94" or "3–94"? Or "3 ~ 94"? Please advise! Thank you, margotbean（讨论） 2023年4月10日 (一) 19:07 (UTC)

Actually, all three are acceptable:
  • Spaces are generally needed for aesthetic reasons, and it's okay not to keep them.
    • in large passages where Chinese characters, numbers and English characters appear at the same time, keeping spaces can minimize the stress of reading
  • Stereotype: Chinese people are good at math Emojis004.png:
    • the symbol "-" looks especially like a minus sign, especially without any spaces or units of measure.
    • the whole looks very much like an equation, for example... Eyes: 10-43, Brain: I know I know, it's -33!
    • Based on the above situation, it's more common to use the wavy line "~" to represent the range. Both symbols will be used and both are common.
Hope it helps, Emojis073.png Sizau（讨论） 2023年4月10日 (一) 20:00 (UTC)
Yes, very helpful, thank you (again)! margotbean（讨论） 2023年4月11日 (二) 21:10 (UTC)

[[2柳巷|缝纫机]]

野炊工具相关的页面我基本检查完毕了，不过在编辑途中又发现了一点新的问题。因为看到大佬之前在维护缝纫相关的页面，所以我想来讨论一下。

我觉得既然已经有单独的缝纫机的页面了，再用[[2柳巷#缝纫机|缝纫机]]有点多余。因为2柳巷也不完全是关于缝纫机的内容，而且上面对缝纫功能的介绍也只有一句话。把缝纫机页面写详细点，再把[[2柳巷#缝纫机|缝纫机]]和[[2柳巷|缝纫机]]都换成[[缝纫机]]会不会好点？--Shirotsuki（讨论） 2023年4月17日 (一) 11:13 (UTC)

（小吐槽：其实缝纫类的页面我没怎么动。中文英语单词词性和含义差别非常大，Tailoring 翻成裁缝老让我觉得怪怪的，改成缝纫也不太搭调，因为这里的 Tailoring 主要还是指“衣物的定制”）
之前其他页面也有类似的问题，margotbean 的观点是基于英语wiki，基本保持十二种语言下总体内容的一致性（属于是要么全改要么别改）。缝纫机相关的页面在其他语言里面也挺乱的，如果要改的话还是问问 margotbean 吧，看看他什么想法；要是改的话工作量不小，之前我发现内容乱七八糟所以就暂时搁置了没动，Sizau（讨论） 2023年4月18日 (二) 08:34 (UTC)
好吧，那我也暂时搁置了，大家一起偷个懒∠( ᐛ 」∠)＿--Shirotsuki（讨论） 2023年4月18日 (二) 13:23 (UTC)

染色

Hello Sizau! I see that you added images to the large table at the bottom of 染色 in all languages. Thank you for thinking about all 12 languages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's just one small problem -- if the header is combined with "colspan=2" then the table sorts by the name of the image, not the name of the item. So, all pages sort by English order now, since the names of the images are in English.

I know you did a lot of work on this project, so I'm really sorry. But, could you find existing translations for "image" and "name" in the other languages and split the column header into two headers instead of one? margotbean（讨论） 2023年5月7日 (日) 18:14 (UTC)

No problem! There are two options, and I wonder which one you think would be better:
Item Color
Name		 Color at full
saturation (RGB)		 Dye Strength 
Name
Acorn.png Acorn brown 130,73,37
Aerinite.png Aerinite cyan 0,255,255
Item Color
Name		 Color at full
saturation (RGB)		 Dye Strength 
Acorn.png Acorn brown 130,73,37
Aerinite.png Aerinite cyan 0,255,255
- 时舟（讨论） 2023年5月8日 (一) 04:03 (UTC)


Well, what I was thinking was option 3:
Image Name Color
Name		 Color at full
saturation (RGB)		 Dye Strength 
Acorn.png Acorn brown 130,73,37
Aerinite.png Aerinite cyan 0,255,255
But that looks terrible, so option #1, please! 100%, option #1. Don't add data-sort-values if you don't have to. It's a lot of extra work, and it's not necessary. ;) Thank you so much, margotbean（讨论） 2023年5月8日 (一) 18:14 (UTC)

讨论一下Feeding Bench的翻译^ ^

我正打算更新畜棚，发现这个Feeding Bench的翻译也是百花齐放……

我之前更新喂料斗的时候直译成了“喂食台”，后来才看到您上传的File:Chickens fed ZH.png里面的翻译是“送料台”，其他的还有干草页面上的“喂食斗”……

但我现在觉得最贴切的就是畜棚里用的“饲料槽”，很有乡土气息2333，非常符合我们这个种地游戏的气质（？）

想问问您在翻译“送料台”时是怎么考虑的呢？我是感觉这个词有点偏向工厂流水线的意思了🤣--Shirotsuki（讨论） 2023年5月16日 (二) 16:59 (UTC)

“喂料斗”在文件里是有名称的：BigCraftablesInformation.zh-CN.xnb, Line 82: "99": "Feed Hopper/0/-300/Crafting -9/可以轻易进入饲料筒仓。/true/false/0/喂料斗"
不过 Feeding Bench 确实没有官方名称，我之前更新图片的时候喂料斗页面上写的是送料台，所以就直接拿来用了（
我觉得的话这种没有官方翻译的你就选一个觉得比较贴切的统一一下下吧？时舟（讨论） 2023年5月16日 (二) 17:53 (UTC)
行，那我就全部统一成“饲料槽”了
那File:Chickens fed ZH.png这个文件咋办呀？喊管理员删了，然后重新传一份？--Shirotsuki（讨论） 2023年5月16日 (二) 18:31 (UTC)
在[[:en:File:Chickens fed ZH.png|这个页面]]点“上传该文件的新版本”覆盖上传就行，时舟（讨论） 2023年5月16日 (二) 18:43 (UTC)
救命😭😭我把图片上的字改成了“饲料槽”，然后点了“上传该文件的新版本”，结果它在文件页面显示的还是“送料台”，我以为是我传错了文件，又重新传了一次，结果旧版本变成“饲料槽”了，新文件还是“送料台”，然后我又点了恢复文件，发现它还是改不过来，咋会这样啊😣😥--Shirotsuki（讨论） 2023年5月18日 (四) 13:34 (UTC)
网站有缓存，一般来说要等几个小时让他刷新，我这边现在看已经更新了，时舟（讨论） 2023年5月18日 (四) 15:30 (UTC)

图片上传

同志,我这边有霜瓜的一部分图片，还有“年轻斑点（绿色的远古斑点）”的GIF，我上传不了，咋办QAQ Fresh shroom（讨论） 2024年3月21日 (四) 15:16 (UTC)

因为只有英语wiki能上传图片，图片在这里上传，上传之后在所有语言里都能用，时舟（讨论） 2024年3月22日 (五) 00:37 (UTC)
谢谢~ Fresh shroom（讨论） 2024年3月22日 (五) 05:09 (UTC)

Infobox mousehat

Hello Sizau, I hope you are doing well. I appreciate very much that you changed Template:Infobox mousehat in all 12 languages, and not just one language, but where is the discussion? You and I never discussed the change at all. Please don't surprise me like this in the future! I rely on you heavily since I don't speak Chinese. I don't want to ban you from the template namespace! Thank you for everything you've done for the wiki so far, and please keep discussion open with me. Thank you, margotbean（讨论） 2024年5月4日 (六) 18:36 (UTC)

Oops, sorry for the sudden changes done without discussion in advanced, I've seen that the change was reverted in English wiki and you said it "should be done in all languages" so I presume that it is okay to update them… I will open an discussion next time, thank you! 时舟（讨论） 2024年5月5日 (日) 02:41 (UTC)
And… could you please ban [[User:1558|this user]]? It is messing things up and leaving offensive comments, non of its edits is "contribs", 时舟（讨论） 2024年5月5日 (日) 04:08 (UTC)
Thank you for reporting the vandalism! Here is a small secret: sometimes my comments aren't 100% accurate, especially when 50 million people are editing the wiki at the same time. I glanced at the change before reverting it, and the idea of it was good, but I didn't check the details. ;) margotbean（讨论） 2024年5月5日 (日) 18:55 (UTC)

关于移动版历史的一些问题

Hi，时舟。我是一位萌新编辑者，昨日在编辑iOS移动版历史时发现一些文章的链接被删除了，这让我的编辑工作难以进展，请问您知道如何恢复以前的链接吗？因为时间过长以至于版本历史没有显示😂😂😂，提前感谢您的回复Siki（讨论） 2024年7月16日 (二) 15:42 (UTC)

你好，具体是指哪些链接？缺失的可以参考英语版补回，不过需要注意一下新用户会有限制，编辑到达一定数量后才能添加链接。时舟（讨论） 2024年7月17日 (三) 02:59 (UTC)
我指的是版本发布时间的链接，比如：iOS版《星露谷物语》1.07版本于2018年11月17日发布。我想拥有类似于这种链接的翻译，应该是正确的吧？反正总有一些人机，翻译时把链接去掉。(ˇ╮ˇ)(烦)Siki（讨论） 2024年7月17日 (三) 16:03 (UTC)
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